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at Sun Aug 19 19:25:05 2007 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]
Justin, I am responding to another persons post. Period. I am not flushing you out, no offense, thats silly. I gave no second thought about you not posting further, I fact, I did not notice that at all.
Justin you said, FR, do not take it personal, and we do not have to agree, you said that Justin. I argee, its not personal. May I suggest, you missing a great educational tool.
In all reality, You teach me nothing, and I teach you nothing, But our discussions cause so many others to learn. Sir, that is the purpose of forums. I do not need your help and lets assume you do not need mine(you don't), are we the only two in the world? You mentioned your mistakes to enlighen others. What happened to that approach?
To switch up, do any of you think you effect Jobi by disagreeing with him? hahahahahahaha Ain't going to happen, nor is it going to happen with me, but your agreeing or not, and the following discussions is of value and entertainment to many others.
Now Please consider this. Our forum is about monitors(which at times is boring) This forum is 99% about people. The reason is simple. Somewhere close to 99% of husbandry issues are about the people and not the animals. The best learning tool to better husbandry is to clear the plate and learn what is ACTUALLY useful. That was my best tool. The key here is the same as learning in any field, to pick the right direction to follow it and keep the non useful information out. Varanid information spans the gamit from totally non useful, to totally of value. The keepers task IS TO PICK. And hopefully for the sake of the monitor/s be right. So the value of my post is TO HELP SOMEONES CHARGES, not to flush you out. OH my, how silly.
The reality is, I am a rougue amoung older varanid keepers, the reason, I took a fresh approach. They all told me it would not work, my monitors would die. Trouble is, it did not work out that way. My husbandry and approach did work.
In the old days, the keepers were more about being knowledgeable on all things varanid and expert at none. No specialists, no to little actual success. I specialized and to be successful, I had to tune them out.
What is odd is, If I had failed, they would have been right, I would have been a fool to ignore them. But I did not fail, in fact, very much the opposite.
I feel there is no need to understand ca/ph ratios and any such thing. I feel thats for vets to concentrate on and for us to create conditions that we do not have to see vets.
As I mentioned you, who has the tools to actually measure blood serum levels, not me, and not 99.9999% of keepers, in fact, very few vets do either. The samples are sent to a lab.
Lets jump up, So now, we have tools in husbandry that I brought to the table. Such things as retes boards, deep substrate, wide range of temp and humidity options, nesting as an important tool, vitamin/mineral suppliments, cattle troughs,(which I find funny), and more. That resulted in monitors growing quickly, maturing quickly, multiclutching commonly and still living long lives. Yes, before me, dusting monitor food was not done commonly.
It also eliminated those problems I mentioned associated with PH.
So yes, I feel I should discuss the use and over use of suppliments.
In the early days, I had to work to get keepers to see the benefit of the above husbandry tools. Now a days, I have to work to insure they are not overdoing them, which they commonly are.
Back to you, THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU. Don't you think my post and this subject is important enough for the folks on KS to read? Cheers
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RE: a bit sensitive are we - FR, Sun Aug 19 19:25:05 2007