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RE: I think I see the problem

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Posted by: FR at Sun Aug 19 22:26:02 2007   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]  
   

Its an old problem and has been exposed before. You think its important to know and understand the parts and purpose of monitor parts( a mechanic, a biologist)



I on the otherhand do not dwell on that. I think and practice behavior(ethlogy) as the important eliment of husbandry, I feel that is what is most important.



I think the actual fine workings of organs and such are best left to Vets, heck what else are they going to do? humor.



As I constantly bring up, I have had no need for vets in many years and many many generations of many species. (which is why I can call it huey)



You are kinda making it personal, and thats fine with me. So I want to ask you, How many monitors have you hatched? how many clutches have you hatched? how many clutches have you personally experienced? of your animals, how many of those have you hatched and raised to maturity. I ask because, our opinions and thoughts, should be a direct reflection of those very things.



You are a firm (stubborn) supporter of what your saying, so I want to hear what supports that. And keep it in context. Your experience, your thoughts. and yes, your results with monitors. Apples to apples u know.



I know its not fair to bring up my whole history, so I will offer whats happening today. I have approx 50 young adults to old adults of many species, of those I hatched all but four. There are extra males and pairs that are purposely not being bred. I have approx 80 babies(raise ups) of which I hatched all of them, and their parents, and their parents. And approx 120 eggs of several species incubating.



Again, for others to get an accurate assessment of our opinions, they need to weight the results.



To backtrack, Your saying me or any keeper needs to understand calicum balance and that type of thing to successfully keep monitors. My opinion is, that is not necessary and I do not dwell on that in the least. Again best left to the experts, Vets.



My husbandry has prevented me for having to learn anything about that calicum stuff. So yes, as you can see, in the actual function of organs, I am somewhat naive. As I have had no reason to learn that stuff. I am a bit more familiar with the reproductive organs as I have had problems in that area of varanid biology. Mostly in the past.



Now please understand, I never said you were bad at keeping or bad at anything. In fact, much the opposite. Your relatively new and we have different opinions as to what is important. You dwell on mechanical function, and I dwell on behavioral function.



If you really think your right, show me, I am willing to learn. But please keep in mind MY results as well as yours.



Lastly I do understand that varanid mechanics is a fun topic and many like talking about it, or theorizing about it, and thats great, but keep on point, its use in the actual keeping of monitors. Thanks for your ear. Cheers


   

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