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ChrisGilbert
at Thu Sep 6 21:10:11 2007 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by ChrisGilbert ]
I believe there were 3 total "Sonoran Leopard" lines produced in Germany around the same time, different breeders. It is the Winner line that grew to such large numbers and spread to the US. I haven't heard much about what happened to the others, or if compatibility tests were done with the others.
I believe Vin Russo commented on the Sonoran debate around the Winner Leopards. If anyone has info on this I'd love to go through it.
There has also been debate on the locale of these boas as well.
Paul, what info do you have about the Mephisto name? I had heard that was what the were originally called, but it changed to Leopard because of the Latin-English translation of Mephisto. That's all I know about it.
Leopards are extremely variable, possibly the most variable of all recessive boa morphs. Makes for endless projects.
I will add one comment, I don't think Han's Leopards are Costa Rican, why, because of adult size. My Liberian locale CRs are fairly big for CA boas. The female is over 6ft, and the male is over 5 ft. Though the male is the leanest adult boa I own. Meanwhile my 66% het Leopard female (produced by Hans) is under 5ft. and my Leopard (produced by Hans) is slightly over 3 ft. All 4 boas are adults. So I do think the locales are different. Wherever they come from. It is still very possible that the mutations are the same.
I will also say that if I do get a Black boa from my CR boas I will breed it with the Winner line to test compatibility.
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RE: The discussion occured... - ChrisGilbert, Thu Sep 6 21:10:11 2007