Hi Daniel, I am sure that is not meant for you. I know your absolutely great at putting information together. The best I have ever seen.

But what I think is the point is, this is a captive husbandry forum and as such, most information needs to be first looked at in that direction. Of course, all are welcome to look at it in anyway they want.

So, if you look at the work linked to, you will notice, very little in the area of "captive husbandry" Yes, there is some, but by todays standards, its very very little. And I know you understand theres a lot of assumptions by you and others. Those assumptions were based on the understanding and experiences of that time. Times have changed.

You see, you took a number of papers and made assumptions, but you have little to no captive experience to make assumptions with. There also is no explaining of the, who, how, where, why, whens, etc. Yes, captive husbandry is a side bar, in your book.

So I believe your work is great, but weak in the area of captive husbandry. Which is our focal point on forums like these.

Remember, these(some) people are passionate just like you, in your area. We do this on a day in day out, basis for decades. The folks you quote are fine and dandy, but if you actually research them. They had very little experience with captive husbandry. They did at the time, but times have changed.

It would be like when you came over and wrote up some of my varanid breedings. Then compare that time to now. I of course have changed my thoughts, I should have gained lots of experiece, I should have seen many many events that I had not seen in that short period previous to you coming here. And yes, From that time to now, I should have explored more possibilities and gained a better understanding. In otherwords, with time and work, we all should advance and change. So its only about time, not a slight on anyones character or intelligence.

Sir, that is only mentioned to explain, why we "HAVE" to look at those old papers with some skepticisum. Those papers did not have exposure to generations upon generations of captive lines of many species, done in many parts of the world(not just me). Those papers were mostly, produce a clutch or two, and write it up, then move on. Which was absolutely wonderful for the time, cutting edge if you will. But that time is long gone. Today is another day. We are asking different questions. What was a wonder in those days, are commonplace now.

So please do not take it personal. What was mentioned was not about you. You in fact should be proud. I know, I am proud of you.

Your work has helped move us into the future. Don't fight it, move into the future with us.

You cannot expect us to stay the same and take the same from those papers, as we(you and I) did when they were first published. Your wrote that to educate, and you did your job, we have moved on to greener newer pastures. Cheers

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