Hi Mike, for the first time, I do think your emotions took you off track. Please reread my post. I believe I stated, or hope I stated, there is no war. Its all about the reader taking the information in context. I stated, its about the reader, not the books or the author or academics.

What I find funny is, In a GIANT debate with a varanid author, it took ten minutes for him to state, our papers are NOT for keepers. If that was so, why are they so upset when we state that here.

For instance, in a keepers forum, we should expose what is USEFUL and what is not. Its not personal in any way. I would think thats our task.

In order to advance our husbandry. I would think learning what is important and what is not is VERY IMPORTANT and basic.

I may be wrong but, when you take a math class, you should be upset if the teacher hands you a book on welding(i mention that because I just welded my arm) By the way, there is math in welding. As there should be keeper important information in natural history. Cheers

So please, try again. Cheers

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