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Jeff, this is what I don't understand...

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Posted by: sdi at Thu Sep 27 16:21:08 2007   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by sdi ]  
   

“......the simple recessive Hypos which are also technically T-Positive albinos......
None of these are the same as the way the Paradigm "Paraglow" works for sure. We all know that.”

Sorry about the out of context quotes I want you to know where I am coming from. Please excuse my dialog. I know as much about genetics as I do about what motivated those guys to make that chicken nugget video.

What I do understand is that it takes a sharp albino and a boawoman "hypo" to make a paradigm. Add a "traditional" hypo and you get a paraglow. The ingredients are straight forward. I have seen adult and neonate paradigms and adult and neonate VPI t-plus boas. I also used to own a Boawoman "hypo" which I purchased as a neonate and had until it was about twenty months old. He had a different appearance than the VPI t-plus boas, but he did have the lavender outlines around the tail although they were less pronounced.

What I do not understand is how a paradigm is also JUST a t-positive boa and here is why. I would be more apt to call the Boawoman "hypo" a t-plus due to its appearance and because the gene is passed in a recessive manner. Think of what it takes to get a boawoman “hypo” from paradigm related breeding combinations. The only way to do this is if both parents carry the boawoman “hypo” gene. What will a paradigm x paradigm breeding produce? If the boawoman "hypo" recessive gene and the sharp recessive gene combine on the same locust and produce a new mutation how is this JUST a t-plus boa? Especially when you already identified the boawoman "hypo" as a t-plus in this thread. Visually, a similar end product is achieved, however the path is different.

An earlier thread about the "t-plus" boas from Europe gave a very broad definition of the tyrosinase appearance which was fairly all inclusive in its description and is similar to the genetic definition. Under our current labeling system anything that pops up and looks like a t-plus, can be, regardless of the genetics at work. I am not saying this is right or wrong, I don't know. It seems like it would be a good idea to clearly define a boa that has a different genetic map (at least the part we can identify) with a different tag name for breeding purposes. We don’t call the super albino motley a snow boa even though they are similar appearing white boas. Similar outcome, different genetic path???

Think down the road when multiple isolated genes are combined and we have the "t-plus super hytec bloody ghost.....het stripe". It would make a big difference if this boa was actually a paradigm t-plus as apposed to a VPI t-plus and you wanted to breed it to a het for sharp strain. Not that you would but you get the point. If I paid the $250,000 price tag for the "t-plus super hytec bloody ghost.....het stripe" boa I would want to know the difference. I know there is a good corn snake example out there but I am not familiar with it.

Wouldn't it be advantageous to define the paradigm as something different than a t-plus? Not only to clarify the project in terms of the genetic path, but for differentiation in the market place as well.

Finally, I am not trying to stir the pot or discredit anyone. The VPI t-pos and the paradigm are both awesome projects. This has just never made since to me. Just a confused enthusiast here so for those who reply please be gentle. This is what the forums are for.


   

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