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FR
at Fri Oct 12 00:10:18 2007 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by FR ]
Boy am I glad your not normal(neither am I) normal seems to fail alot at this.
My problem is, I think you over qualified, hahahahahaha. Most are. Monitors thrive with simple. Much like birds, they have to have a nest. They like many bird species return to a nest(only its a burrow, or crevice, hollow and plural of all them) Most of everyday and night. These are the CENTER of their life. These are what is important.
The temps and lighting and all such are easy and can be done in a zillion ways.
Your major problem is freezing or near freezing with indos(they do not do that, AT ALL) I do not remember your saying what your actually going to get, I am assuming black waters. Anyway, If it were me, I would rather start at a non lethal time. Like during the summer and work into winter.
Your not going to have any experience heading into winter. You will not know their normal behavioral patterns, so it will be hard to pick out what is not normal.
I will say this, cold temps mean nothing to indo monitors. Their temperature program thinks its cold at 60F. They have no experience or programing below that. You may think, they should know better, because everyone thinks they are smart. They are not. That stuff is not in their computer. an example. You can provide them with nice warm areas and they will move over against a cold wall and die. While that is not normal, its not out of their ability either. They do not understand it will ever get below 60F. (that temp is more of an example then what they actually understand)
Over the years I learned more then I wanted to know about how monitors interpid cold. I also learned the difference between ones that can and ones that cannot.
Also, I never questioned your intentions, I never question that. I simply wonder about your direction and line of discussion.
I will say one more thing, if your getting waters, DO NOT GIVE THEM LARGE AMOUNTS OF WATER, just water bowls to drink from. Until next summer. They also do not understand water temps. They will simply drown in cool water. They simply get in, and forget to come up. End of that story. So until you understand what your winter will do. Eliminate that possibiliy. You can offer shallow water in the winter. Shallow enough to not allow drowning in their sleep.
See, to me, these are what is important, not toids and flicker fusion. Did I tell you, monitors can live relatively normally without any vision. The reason is simple. They are the only lizard equipped with a long forked tougue and jacobson organ like snakes(that do it in the dark) Monitors are fully capable of trailing and hunting in the dark. In fact, I have mentioned many times that eyesight is secondary in close situations. And cages are always close situations.
An example of some of their magic is. They can be deep down in burrows, but the moment you place food in the cage, they are up. This is one of those, heck if I know how they do it, but they surely DO. And typically me, that they do it, eliminates my need to understand how they do it. I merely enjoy and incorperate them doing it.
For instance, you gave an explination of how a falcon and hit prey in a fast stoop. I do not give a flying poop water how they do it, I just need to know they can do it. Cheers
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RE: The problem I have with me is - FR, Fri Oct 12 00:10:18 2007
