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Posted by: SHvar at Mon Oct 22 23:10:29 2007   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by SHvar ]  
   

And you will see what makes sense and explains it, of course read FRs comment above before and you will get clarification. Its not about cooling them, its not about single temps or humidities, its about ranges, it is about letting them pick from constantly available ranges.
They maximise their output and performance when conditions allow.
Dont assume that a survival feature is doing something to increase reproduction numbers, I think you are assuming from a limited point of view, your not seeing the ocean through the waves.
In fact in cases I have experience with in aquaintance/friends collections leos did badly if cooled, and if offered wide ranges consistantly they boomed and never stopped producing eggs. I have experience with other species doing the same exact thing, one that I had to get rid of the adults to stop them from laying eggs was beardies, every 3 weeks all year long. I have had similar results with geckos of different types, the only differences were temp ranges were lower (lower top ends, lower bottom ends). Snakes do this in captivity, they reproduce with good ranges, not cooling them. In fact my experience as well others experiences cooling snakes causes them to lose the cooling time, the recovery time, time they could be cycling, mating, laying, eating, growing, etc.
Its not brumating that does anything for reproduction, in fact this is how the whole thing got started years ago, someone saw a cooling period and recovery period which ended in reproduction, so they assumed that it caused them to reproduce, it was the range and resources, not the brumation.
Think about this many mammals that do sleep during part of winter, or hibernate also mate during that hibernation, but and afterwards when the spring brings a period of warmer temps, and a huge variety of food animals reproduce. Some give birth during that time, so it was the boost in diet and better conditions before the hibernation which caused the reproduction to occur.
I cant believe its this hard for some people to understand.


   

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