I really know little about Salvators, but it appears there are three types of black waters in the states, komaini, togian, and that new one that Glades brought in a few years ago, you know, the mini KD. I heard these were being discribed as something new, but I did not hear if that happened. Also, all three have been advertised in recent months on KS.

I know of a number of people who have them and I heard of a few breedings. One advertisement showed a neonate hatching.

Also, the point is, these are all Appendix 2. Which means, if they are in the country they are legal. No matter what country they come from or if they export or not.

In this case, I believe sighthunter is bringing them in from Europe, which means, there WILL HAVE TO BE PERMITS ISSUED, then if they come in with permits, they are no problems. If FWS does not allow them in, then problem solved.

I am not positive but I believe FWS does not go by subspecies. So to apply for a permit all they need to do is label them V.salvator and as such, there will be no problem, as there are about a billion in the country already. Again, I am not positive. FWS can and do decline any species they want, so again, it they allow them in, then no problem. And it appears they are letting them in. Cheers

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• Black Water Monitor - Sighthunter, Sun Oct 21 21:05:28 2007
• RE: Black Water Monitor - mrcota, Mon Oct 22 01:32:09 2007
• RE: So how come - FR, Mon Oct 22 09:20:06 2007
• This is why - mrcota, Tue Oct 23 02:36:23 2007
• RE: This is why - FR, Tue Oct 23 09:42:04 2007
• RE: This is why - Sighthunter, Tue Oct 23 12:06:13 2007
• RE: This is why - FR, Tue Oct 23 13:14:21 2007
• I must have missed the slander... - qiksilver5, Tue Oct 23 16:07:31 2007
• RE: No it was not slander, yet - FR, Tue Oct 23 16:55:29 2007
• RE: No it was not slander, yet - Sighthunter, Tue Oct 23 18:19:49 2007
• RE: This is why - wstreps, Tue Oct 23 18:19:57 2007
• RE: This is why - FR, Tue Oct 23 20:01:38 2007
• RE: This is why - Sighthunter, Tue Oct 23 21:31:59 2007
• RE: This is why - mrcota, Thu Oct 25 04:41:07 2007
• RE: This is why - wstreps, Thu Oct 25 08:41:51 2007
• RE: This is why - mrcota, Thu Oct 25 10:08:40 2007
• RE: This is why - FR, Thu Oct 25 10:59:31 2007
• RE: This is why - wstreps, Thu Oct 25 15:00:00 2007
• RE: This is why - FR, Thu Oct 25 19:13:10 2007
• Maybe the problem is a Thai issue. - SHvar, Fri Oct 26 11:33:19 2007
• RE: Maybe the problem is a Thai issue. - FR, Fri Oct 26 18:00:59 2007
• How about this.. - SHvar, Sat Oct 27 11:25:26 2007
• FR, you know.. - SHvar, Sun Oct 28 11:14:29 2007
• RE: This is why - monitormanUK, Fri Oct 26 06:23:14 2007
• RE: This is why - MadAxeMan, Fri Oct 26 07:54:41 2007
• RE: This is why - FR, Fri Oct 26 10:46:06 2007
• The problems with laws. - SHvar, Tue Oct 23 22:27:34 2007
• Bribe? - Sighthunter, Wed Oct 24 01:01:24 2007
• A link - Sighthunter, Wed Oct 24 11:34:13 2007
• RE: A link - MikesMonitors, Wed Oct 24 12:18:49 2007
• Dibbs!!! - woodsrider, Mon Oct 22 09:48:55 2007
• RE: Dibbs!!! - Sighthunter, Tue Oct 23 12:56:58 2007
• RE: Dibbs!!! - woodsrider, Tue Oct 23 15:28:45 2007
• RE: Dibbs!!! - Sighthunter, Tue Oct 23 18:08:36 2007