hold on, I never said they change sex. what they appear is, all female then develop into males from there. What I wonder about is, what kicks in the male chromosone and when.

You do understand that is it was a simple "determined at fertilization" Then all males would become obvious at the same stage in live. You know, a certain age and size. Which does not appear to be the case. Some individual males are EASY to determine at an early age, others are not. Some are full on adults before they exhibit male characteristics. Some males never develop secondary characteristics(he/shes)

And I would not expect you "to be with me". I have only raised hundreds of monitor groups. So you could not possibly have my experience or be with me. Please do not take that as a cut or offense, it simply is what it is. Its just something for you to think about.

What is hard for me to understand is, why you feel like you have to agree or not. My main concern, is that you keep an eye out and see how it works for you.

Of special interest, on our site, I have posted many many small groups of the last few years and we have ALWAYS had both sexes. With many species as well. The question may be, WHY is it working for me. ALso, when I say it works for me, I mean, the females bred with the males and produced babies. Generations upon generations.

ALso, no offense please, but you admit to not being good at sexing them. Are you sure, what sexes you had? This thought becomes very important, as so many talk, yet they are mere beginers.

Like with so many things, I really could careless about this subject. Which means, I have no stake in knowing one way or the other. As I actually keep, raise, and produce monitors, on a regular basis. And we do not have problems raising groups that have always included both sexes. So I frankly do not need any more explination then that. I understand that makes many mad, but I do not care about what science or theorist say. My stake is with producing babies, and I continue to do that very well. My stake is recieving both males and females, and again I have no problem with that. So, I really could care what others not practicing this think or believe. Maybe, we are over a radon gas sink or something?

This indeed sounds like a country approach to breeding livestock, and yes it may be. BUT IT WORKS. So while I am the one that hatches monitors on a weekly basis, pushing two decades now, I have to wonder why those that don't, keep telling me I am wrong. If I am wrong, I love being wrong. Its working great for me. Again, I could be just very very very lucky. Either case, it works for me.

Lastly, I will ask, did you raise them seperately? Or in a group of ten? All the time? Or did you move them forth and back? My bet(only a bet) is, you did not raise 10 ackies together. My bet is, you raised them in small takes, a few per cage. Remember I am ONLY guessing, but its a common practice guess. That is what most do. Then you get impatient and move them forth and back. Am I close? Cheers

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