just a nice docile easy going ratsnake that is more like a racer. They don't constrict so to speak so they have slashing bites. They can bite you several times before you think Ouch! LOL. I see alot of people who get talkied into buying a cornsnake over a pit, and I see some of them turn around and want the pit right away. I was talking with Daryl Camby the other night on the phone while he was cleaning cages and I could tell each time he opened another of his bullsnake enclosrures. LOL. It was the typical Ouch we all experience and learn to deal with to some extent. Ya gotta love the pits.



>>I would agree with Terry whole-heartedly!!! If a pit is what you want then get a pit! I started with pituophis (Northern Pine) and had no problems with it. I also in my short time in the hobby have come to own several corns, a thayeri king, a sinaloan milk (locale specific), a pair of cal kings, a black pine and I am eagerly awaiting several bulls and some surprises.

>>I have found that the age old arguement of which is the better first snake to me a moot point and completely irrelevent and an endless debate based on personal opinion. The only opinion that matter when one is deciding to get a first snake is that of the prospective new handler. Yes opinions from those with more experience and knowledge matters and their help and advice is often spot on, but alas the desicion ultimately belong to the new handler.

>>So with my ramble at an end... Get what YOU want, but be wise and do the research so that not only do you understand the captive requirements of your new snake but also the characteristics of the snake and what to expect as far as behaviour... I can just see a new unsuspecting handler open the top of an enclosure and being greeted by the mad hiss and rattle of a bull... and actually buying the little snakes bluff

>>If ya do go with a pit, then you have found the right place to gain knowledge and make friends and I hope to cya around.

>>Oh and pits are my favorites!

>>Okay I am done...no seriously I am done...

>>

>>Charles...

>>Oh and Hi!

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>>I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven't got the guts to bite people themselves.

>>August Strindberg (1849 - 1912), A Madman's Diary, 1895

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