By next fall I am hoping to move to a unpopulated area on Sand Mtn, in the great state of AL. One of the things I am planning to do after I am moved is set up an outside "pit" or enclosure for pit vipers. I am only planning to keep regionally collected animals in there. Most likely the snakes I pull from peoples yards and barns. I am thinking about using cinder blocks and sinking the wall 12 inches into the ground and have about 48 inches showing above ground. No gates or doorways. the only way in or out is over the wall. Thinking about making it 20 feet by 20 feet and placing a filtered pond in the center. I have 2 issues that I need to resolve for this plan and i would like input from anyone who has ever set up such an enclosure. first issue, i need some sort of artificial den for the winter months. I do not want to use anything eclectic. i don't want to run the risk of a power outage killing off the snakes outside. what i am thinking is a plastic footlocker, insulated on the top and sides. half inch holes cut in the bottom to allow water to filter out should any make it in. Then digging out an area and placing gravel in the hole, the box on the gravel, then burying the box 18 inches underground. snakes will have access thru a PVC pipe running underground to the box. also planning to put hay inside the box in late fall. The hay should create a little of its own heat over the winter months. Second, looking for an expedient way to feed the collection of snakes inside the pit. I think tossing in couple dozen live mice would get some feed, but many of the mice will dig or climb out. throwing in dead mice, i think the prolific eaters will feast and the more reluctant will starve. I plan to keep fish and fogs in the pond, so the cottonmouths can probably earn a living from the pond. Some coppers may follow suite, but I don't think the timbers will ever assimilate to an aquatic diet. Another thought is day old chicks right out of the egg. no chance of those digging or climbing out, but not sure how difficult it will be to have access to those spring to fall. of course, no feed from about late oct to april. Thank you and look forward to the feedback.

Samuel 'Chuck' Hurd
Professional Educator / Venomous Reptile Curator
www.ChuckHurd.com
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• Outside enclosure for pit vipers - samuelhurd, Fri Feb 1 19:38:58 2008
• RE: Outside enclosure for pit vipers - texasreptiles, Fri Feb 1 21:01:45 2008
• RE: Outside enclosure for pit vipers - fortiterinre, Fri Feb 1 22:34:48 2008
• LOL. - tokaysrnice, Sat Feb 2 02:38:58 2008
• RE: Outside enclosure for pit vipers - Upscale, Sat Feb 2 06:39:01 2008
• RE: Outside enclosure for pit vipers - CrotalusCo, Sat Feb 2 10:32:29 2008
• RE: Outside enclosure for pit vipers - Bob H, Sat Feb 2 08:13:07 2008
• RE: Outside enclosure for pit vipers - samuelhurd, Sat Feb 2 12:40:33 2008
• RE: Outside enclosure for pit vipers - fortiterinre, Sat Feb 2 14:05:53 2008
• RE: Outside enclosure for pit vipers - CanebrakeCowboy, Sat Feb 2 16:47:46 2008
• RE: Outside enclosure for pit vipers - samuelhurd, Sat Feb 2 18:42:27 2008
• RE: Outside enclosure for pit vipers - Carmichael, Sun Feb 3 11:47:24 2008
• Sorry Chuck. - tokaysrnice, Tue Feb 5 11:38:39 2008
• RE: Sorry Chuck. - samuelhurd, Tue Feb 5 18:11:44 2008
• RE: Sorry Chuck. - TexasReptiles, Tue Feb 5 18:23:32 2008
• RE: Sorry Chuck. - samuelhurd, Tue Feb 5 19:34:22 2008
• RE: Sorry Chuck. - TexasReptiles, Tue Feb 5 20:00:13 2008