>>sorry you're so bummed, but my experience has been quite different. i've met lots of people i like, track the acomplishments of many others from afar, and in general, have enjoyed it all. i've paid for hundreds of snakes in advance, always ship first on trades, and can count my disapointments on one hand. i paid top dollar for lots of things, it all worked out as soon as i started hatching babies. fish and game sticks their head in every now and then, no problem there. i like my snakes, and i like the business, especially the competitive aspects. i think it's all about choices, what you choose to buy, and who you choose to deal with. i wish you well on your next endeavor. peace. kurt d.


Kurt has a point here...Anything can go south with enough bad decisions...and i've overpaid for a few things,but as long as the eggs were hatching it all leveled off for me.(With a very small group of animals at that.)

I still get excited when i get some eggs,or when they start pipping(that is if can let them,without grabbing the scissors lol),whether they are pastels,or whatever...

On a side note..It seems ironic how the op had a problem with those that crapped on the market..yet,did it themeselves..and then made a post about.(but only after they were done doing it.)...wth?
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