First off, thanks, Axe, for clarifying my question. I said, "species of concern" when in fact it is what you said, "Reptiles of Concern."



Axe, you're right about the issue involving purchasing venomous. I went thru that a few years ago at an Orlando F.I.R.E. show. You can't take possession of them without a FL venomous license, you have to have them shipped.



As for the Daytona Breeders show, I looked at their website last night and it said the show is scheduled for Daytona for August 22 - 24.



Laura,

You mentioned the size of 4 inches in diameter for microchipping. I've read in the statutes where they said 2 inches. Have they modified that? I know not all of their online statutes are completely updated because I saw one that still listed the $1,000 bond instead of the new $10,000 bond requirement for venomous. (Huff! - at FL's inconsistencies, not you, Laura. )



I've spent too much time researching FL's confusing legal mumbo-jumbo. Aaarrrrggghhhhh!!!



After a lot searching I finally called FWC and spoke to someone who said she had been trained in the area of "Reptiles of Concern." (Yeah, right! Hahaha!!!)



I was told that:

As a seller/dealer - I need a $50 permit to sell or display ROC (reptiles of concern). I also need a $100 permit to possess ROC. I asked her about needing an Import permit since I'd be bringing them into the state to sell & she said she didn't know. One place that I found on FWC's site said that I would need a "no-cost" Import permit.



Now, after getting off the phone I searched again and found this:

Section I-Wildlife Possessed for Exhibition, Public Sale, or for Personal Use:



(A) Applicable Statutes



1. Chapter 372.921, F.S., Exhibition and Sale of Wildlife



The purpose of this Statute is to ensure humane treatment and sanitary surroundings for wild animals kept in captivity for public display or sale. It charges the Commission with licensing those who desire to offer wildlife for sale, or exhibit them for a fee or otherwise. Applicants for permits must show the place, number, and type of wildlife they plan to possess. Caging facilities are subject to inspection prior to authorization and applicants must have the required experience. License fees range from $5 for up to 10 animals and $25 for over 10 animals. Commercial operations are generally characterized by: (1) a regular media advertising campaign; (2) signs, billboards, or flyers advertising commercial wildlife services or operations; (3) regular "open for business" hours; and (4) written business is conducted on printed letterhead paper, indicating the name of the company.

Source: myfwc.com/captive/cwr-3.html



However, I also found this:

(c) For any number of Class III individual specimens in the aggregate of all species, the sum of $50 per annum.

372.921 Exhibition or sale of wildlife.









I was told that:

As a buyer - In order to take possession of an ROC, whether a FL resident or not, I would need the $100 ROC Possession permit.



Get real, Florida! I was born & raised in Central FL and I love the community that I'm from (Apopka/Plymouth), but I'll be dang if I'm movin' back with their ridiculous, hideous, reptile & animal laws. My mom still lives there & one of these days I'll have sole possession of her house but I'll probably give it to my nephew that lives close by. OK, enough of that rant. Sorry.



Back to the issue of the affect the laws will have on FL reptile shows:

I usually attend an Orlando show & the Daytona show each year. Under the above guidelines I have no reason or desire to do so anymore. Now, if I was into ball pythons & geckos, then load 'em up, I'd be there. But i'm not, I'm into pythons, the big boys (FL's ROC). Why should I go? Change my taste? Ha! No way, Jose!!! Not to suit silly government bureaucrats.



I will be attending SC shows for the first time this year with hopes of them filling a void. I hate it for the promoters of the FL shows as I've loved every one I've been to.



Hopefully something can be done to accomodate out-of-state residents purchasing ROC so I can continue to support FL reptile shows.



Just FYI for those of you that don't know what FL considers ROC (Reptiles of Concern):

Burmese python (Python molurus)

African rock python (Python sebae)

Amethystine python (Morelia amethystinus)

Reticulated python (Python reticulatus)

Green anaconda (Eunectes murinus)

Nile monitor (Varanus niloticus)

...or any hybrid thereof.



Ya'll take care, and give 'em heck!

HH




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