Welome Max, I myself have had some experience with road cruising in Colorada during the 80's. For the most part in areas North of Denver toward Greeley in the West. Where exactly is Parker Located? We never collected but did like to take pics.



Colorado bulls are on average much smaller than Texas Bulls. One evening though as I was making just that comment to a Colorado native. We were actually cruising at the time we came upon a huge DOR bull. As you would have it, it was close to 6' and very girthy. Never did come across a large one alive though.



Just a quick comment in regards to releasing herps from one area into another. I have read many views on such to the pros and cons of doing this. One example concerning my wife's interest in turtles and tortoises. We currently reside in Florida where (rumor as it) people are constantly releasing herps back into the wild. As their intentions are meant in good will there is always a chance of introducing something back to the wild with the relaese of these reptiles. Something that these reptiles may have not had prior to their collection that could now spread to wild populations.



There are several studies of just that concerning these shelled herps being undertaken right now as we speak. I believe now I need to give more attention to my wife when she speaks of such things so that I could have supplied some specifics as they fail my memory at this moment.



Just food for thought, especially if temporary containment has any association with other herps you may be keeping in your personal collection.



It is unfortunate though to endure seeing more DOR reptiles though than living reptiles in any environment. I hope this is not becomming the case in your area as it has become the norm in ours.



I do hear though the burms and iggys are doing well here but unfortunately not the Florida Box turtle.



Thanks, Rich Hebron

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