well cool now i know! i threw some mixed veggies out in the yard because i thought he (bert) was looking for an tastey treat. you know i have had reptiles all wy life (mainly turtles and torts.) and i have had the most enjoyment thus far with these mtn. torts. they have the strangest most peculure querks. the first time i heard them mateing i diddnt know they would be so loud! bert is i believe 11in staight line and maybe 15lbs last time i weighed him was last year. he had a mate sweet pea she just one day quit eating after i brought her to the park on mothers day 07. i have had the pair three yrs. or so i donnot know how old they were when i got them and neither did the lezzies i bought them from. i am in the market right now for another breeder size brown female. not much out there so far. i would post some pics but i am new to this computer thing. i will experiment with it a little and maybe have some soon. both of your pics are great!

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