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>>>>I just bred my stuff got a table and sold my "wares". I usually hook up with a friend who is breeding. One friend Charles Juiliano used to sell Carnivorous Plants at the Hamburg Pennsylvania and Staten Island NY show. He made 100 times more cash doing that. Then people started trying to sell them. Difference being they where buying them and reselling. He propagates his own as a hobby along with reptiles and also excels at fish, he used to breed red bellied piranhas too.

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>>>>I used to always make my cash spent back though. Now I haven't done much in years. But will probably do so in future.

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>>>>I have sold retics,brb's, and rat snakes at a few shows in the tri state area that's it. But it was easy to stand out at those shows because most people had wild caught (hamburg) or underfed snakes for sale with stuck sheds or made it obvious they where feeding them less with the thin but it has a lump so it's eating look I seem to run into at these shows.

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>>>>>>Okay, enough preaching. Rat snakes are awesome. One of my favorite snakes ever was a big, ole yellow rat snake I caught down in Florida. Tried to take my head off when I first caught him, but tamed down within an hour. Don't think he ever tried to bite after that.

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>>>>>>>>>>Rat snakes just happen to be my favorite animals. I have bred and kept MANY American rat snake species. All VERY easy to breed and some very TESTE in nature if you don't work with them. All my Texas rats have mellowed and the babies from them seem to carry their more pleasant disposition. For Lucy Black Rats try Don Soderberg

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>>>>>>>>>>Thanks,

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>>>>>>>>>>I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

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>>>>>>>>Thanks,

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I opened my mouth and out flowed a melody black.

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