alright i can see that you have rasied many reptiles without UVB and you contend that UVB is just a bandage for poor husbandry, but if the person has good husbandry and uses uvb doe that matter? is uvb going to make a difference. couldnt it only be benificial to the animal to have it along with good husbandry. UVB is said to be benificial, but does anyone have proof thats its harmful to reptiles? All your saying is that uvb is a bandage and that repitles die from poor husbandry not neeccesarily from the uvb, so is uvb in itself harmful? If not then along with good husbandry im sure people can maintain even healthier lizards.

by the way i understand what your saying about summer temps and spring temps, im going try and raise my temps in the summer, see if i can get some breeding.

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