>>HH,
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>> As my friend John pointed out recently at least one group appears to be a glorified snake hunting club disguised as a herp group.
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Mike I try my best to remain civil with you but MAN you make it difficult. What exactly have you done besides come up with suggestions for OTHER people to do? You bark allot but theres not much bite. Lets see a short and simple run down on what this "snake hunting club" has done.
* Have made donations and had talks with several state senators
* Count one state senator as a MEMBER
* Have members from City, county, state and federal law enforcement
* Members from academia
* members from US Fish and Wildlife
* Built a website
* About to have our first annual meeting / field trip on a private ranch
* Added several private ranches to our lists for membership to LEGALLY herp until the law is changed
* Have several corprate sponsors that have donated

There's lots more, should I go on? I really don't think there's a need. I think you get the point. If you put the amount of energy into "your cause" that you put into bashing people that won't do the work for you, you might come up with something.
WE are making progress. WHY? because we walk the walk and don't talk the talk. Start walking the walk, we won't fight against you, promise. We have more important things to do. I'm telling you all this as a suggestion, NOT to bash you. Take some steps, build a website, recruit memebers to your cause, solicit donations, etc. What pleasure does it give you to talk smack? I really don't understand your drive to act like this. You border on delusional here. Have you ever went back and read your posts?

Lastly,
This "Glorified Snake Hunting Club" is about to get the law changed...watch and see.
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HCU
Snakes of Hudspeth County, Texas

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