huh, been there myself! Bought two White Oak Gray Rats from someone. DUMBLY didn't pop them myself when I got them in. And years later as I'm looking at two HUGE gray rats, I'm scratching my head wondering why I'm not seeing any breeding action. And then I looked at their tails...real hard...and realized...they were both boys..GAH! So I feel your pain. If I was you? well, I'd buy two females and raise em up if my intention is to breed the males. Or if you think you can buy better males than what you have, try to pawn them off on someone. Personally I'd try to buy a pair or two over again. As I like my pairs closer in age and size. And with pines, it seems smaller males are better breeders. But anyhow, thanks for the compliment. They are starting to shed now. Purty! I want to keep em all! Oh well, by the time October rolls around, I'll be ready to get rid of them at Tinley. Maybe...

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