I like the post by reptoman and agree with it. I have suggested most of the same thing to TP&W already. I have also tried to get them to sit down with use in an open type forum face to face to talk about this. So far it has been like pissing in the wind.



The problem is some (not all) in the academic realm have decided to push an agenda that for the most part says that all wild animals belong in the wild and this is were we need to leave them. Some are so extreme thay do not even support zoos having or captive breeding animals. I know because I have read the scientific papers with there opinions and there post on these and PARC forums and more.

So even though more than 90% of the earths life forms have over time become extinct even before man was here, they think mother nature is a loving nurturing entity that supports life. When it is more like life fights to stay here. They run on a complete fairy tail. And even in face of global climate change and development they do not lend any credit to captive breeding animals as a safty net to not only keep animals from going extinct and saving genes from going extinct. Yet they do not have control over development or climate change so why should they get to wreck what I have built?

It is pretty simple to understand that captive breeding makes more animals and therefor if we are making more how would they go extinct and how would this hurt any species? A child should be able to get this.

The real problem is TP&W is only listening to academia and those that are like this in at least some way. The ball is in there court and they feel they do not have to listen to us. So the lets just be nice and talk to them isn't or at least hasn't been working so far. It will take more responcibility on the part of academia and TP&W to get any good done here.

I understand we need to build a bridge with academia to work together with us, but I have been trying and get shut out and down every time.

I was the one attacked by them here and now I am fighting to save my collection and captive breeding project (I keep and breed box turtles). I am not the one burning the bridge and I am not the one that should have to apologize here.

Being so nice doesn't seam to work because they could really care less. Eric

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