Hi, I got a vision rack in as part of a breeding loan. I am using it and it is better than anything I have built BUT 4x's more expensive. IF you have the money get them they are nearly genius at work. MY only issue with them is almost too much ventilation and if the humidity is a little low (ie: winter) they will have some shed issues.........The ARSs I have seen in action and are genius but you pay a lot more for them......ARS thought of everything!! Even built in water bowl holders in the drawers.....BUT best value on the dollar for professional racks have to still be the Visions. They are great.....SPECIAL NOTE!!! When installing the heat cable they tend to be on the short side (in my ltd experience) so do not allow a lot of slack between levels so that you can heat all of them......You might also review Boaphile plastics too. GOOD value Prices include shipping. Nice racks, but just not as handy without rollers etc. .........While you are buying look into the herpstat by spider robotics. BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK at least for the proportionals. VERY PLEASED WITH MINE!!!!! Have used rancos big apple helix. herpstat comes out on top IMHO plus all units are Night drop capable and only requires a second temp probe. Lee

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