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shannon brown
at Sun Aug 24 06:31:41 2008 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by shannon brown ]
I have said al that 100 times or better.It really comes down to what is important to the buyer.
For the record there will never ever ever be any true outcrossed stillwater buls.I don't care if you found the snake crawling across main and first street in down town Stillwater Ok. We al know that there is no way to ever know where the 2 animals John got came from.Heck, they may be from northern Texas or whatever.
The fact is that they were rescued from a Rattlesnake roundup in Stillwater Ok.Thats all we know for sure and it should end there.
Jim was able to get his hands on some animals collected in stillwater and so he has in his mind outcrossed the stillwater bulls to strengthen the line. I am not sure the line needed strengthening but to each his own.I have some f4 animals that have nothing but the blodd that Johns 2 snakes had in them and they are big and robust and breed fine and I will be selling f5 babies next year.
I also for several years now took one of my male stillwater hypos and bred it to all kinds of other bull morphs to use the hypo gene that it carries.In my eye the stillwater hypo gene is better looking than the Trumbower (generic) line and when mixed with amel,axanthic,whitesided,patternless etc... it makes better looking ghosts,snows,bluizzards etc....
So, bottom line is I offer "pure" stilwater hypos with no other genetics or anything and then I offer a wide aray of "morphs" that I have used the same stillwater gene in.
You can buy what you want and be happy but never be tricked into buying a outcrossed stillwater hypo bul cause there is no such thing.There is no such think as a het for stillwater bull unless they indicate that its just a generic bull that is carriening the stillwater hypo gene.
Its water under the bridge and the past can't be changed but, ever since the very first time I heard the real story and then knew they really had no true locale data I wished that John would have hung his name on them instead of a locale name for the morph.It would just make things much esier but it is what it is.
L8r Shannon
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That was a good post man. - shannon brown, Sun Aug 24 06:31:41 2008