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natsamjosh
at Tue Aug 26 12:38:57 2008 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by natsamjosh ]
Agreed, but personally I'm not out to "win" an argument, and I sincerely hope that's not the way I present myself. That's what frustrates me. I just want to a) learn from others who actually have more than hot air upon which they base their strong opinions, and b) share my experience and ideas. If someone actually has evidence that what I'm doing might present a real risk to my snake, I will change things. I should mention that there are Dry. owners who have discussed the diet issue rationally, and some have actually thanked me for doing things differently.
It's not about arguing, or at least shouldn't be. 
Thanks,
Ed
>>Nobody WINS an internet arguement. They are pointless. Participating in them is a waste of time.
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>>>>Sean/Stephen,
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>>>>I just checked out that discussion on the garter snake forum. It's really sad that people can't answer a few simple information-gathering questions without all the peripheral stupidity, much less respect other people's opinions. Somehow all these know-it-alls know everything there is to know about snake nutrition, yet I wonder if many/most of them have even looked at a nutritional breakdown of prey items. How can anyone with an ounce of brains at least not consider the idea that an all rodent diet for a herp eating species may not be ideal for the snake's digestive system?? Especially when the snakes on all rodent diets are crapping constant diarhea cannons?? Or if they they actually have proof that there is even a negligible risk of parasites surviving in anoles that have been frozen and then harming the snake. Hell, any food item can be contaminated - even rodents! It really saddens me, especially for a threatened species like D. couperi, since being so closed minded does nothing to help improve husbandry methods of captives. I think this is yet another example of Jeff's "snakes are great, people suck" philosophy.
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>>>>I would jump in to the garter snake forum discussion, because I
>>>>see some of the same stupidity and unsubstantiated opinions I've already come across and tried to discuss rationally. But I officially give up, I'd rather go talk to the wall.
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>>>>Anyway, I commend you guys for your open mindedness.
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>>>>Thanks,
>>>>Ed
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- OT: Out of cage feeding... - natsamjosh, Thu Aug 21 20:06:38 2008
- RE: OT: Out of cage feeding... - olstyn, Thu Aug 21 21:25:55 2008
- RE: OT: Out of cage feeding... - Jeff Clark, Thu Aug 21 21:26:36 2008
- Fish are just a treat... - natsamjosh, Fri Aug 22 07:00:01 2008
- Funny! - ReneeValois, Fri Aug 22 07:09:43 2008
- A few comments... - natsamjosh, Fri Aug 22 08:55:21 2008
- RE: A few comments... - aanata1, Fri Aug 22 15:03:54 2008
- He seems to have soooo much personality - aanata1, Fri Aug 22 15:05:39 2008
- RE: A few comments... - natsamjosh, Fri Aug 22 16:09:30 2008
- I'm soooo bored!!!!!! - rainbowsrus, Fri Aug 22 16:28:27 2008
- RE: A few comments... - saagbay, Fri Aug 22 16:59:05 2008
- RE: I'm soooo bored!!!!!! - aanata1, Fri Aug 22 17:57:07 2008
- RE: A few comments... - aanata1, Fri Aug 22 18:01:30 2008
- RE: A few comments... - saagbay, Fri Aug 22 18:25:18 2008
- I have proof of that...... - rainbowsrus, Fri Aug 22 18:32:41 2008
- Whooppss, darn enter key.... - rainbowsrus, Fri Aug 22 18:35:23 2008
- Some people have all the luck! - ReneeValois, Fri Aug 22 18:52:26 2008
- Feeder Snakes - sean1976, Fri Aug 22 19:19:35 2008
- RE: Feeder Snakes - saagbay, Fri Aug 22 20:45:26 2008
- RE: A few comments... - Jeff Clark, Fri Aug 22 23:08:15 2008
- RE: I'm soooo bored!!!!!! - Jeff Clark, Fri Aug 22 23:14:24 2008
- RE: I'm soooo bored!!!!!! - olstyn, Sat Aug 23 08:48:52 2008
- RE: I'm soooo bored!!!!!! - aanata1, Sat Aug 23 12:44:59 2008
- RE: I'm soooo bored!!!!!! - aanata1, Sat Aug 23 12:47:56 2008
- What is the Snake with... - aanata1, Sat Aug 23 12:50:12 2008
- RE: A few comments... - aanata1, Sat Aug 23 12:51:07 2008
- RE: A few comments... - natsamjosh, Sun Aug 24 15:50:45 2008
- RE: Feeder Snakes - natsamjosh, Sun Aug 24 15:58:27 2008
- RE: I'm soooo bored!!!!!! - natsamjosh, Sun Aug 24 16:04:43 2008
- Great point Jeff... - natsamjosh, Sun Aug 24 16:15:36 2008
- RE: A few comments... - natsamjosh, Sun Aug 24 16:34:00 2008
- RE: Funny! - natsamjosh, Sun Aug 24 16:51:26 2008
- lol this is great - saagbay, Sun Aug 24 20:14:30 2008
- RE: lol this is great - sean1976, Sun Aug 24 20:38:25 2008
- RE: lol this is great - saagbay, Sun Aug 24 20:54:35 2008
- Check your Email - sean1976, Mon Aug 25 00:41:20 2008
- RE: A few comments... - Jeff Clark, Mon Aug 25 08:58:35 2008
- Sorry guys.... - natsamjosh, Tue Aug 26 10:32:38 2008
- RE: Sorry guys.... - Jeff Clark, Tue Aug 26 11:43:35 2008
RE: Sorry guys.... - natsamjosh, Tue Aug 26 12:38:57 2008
- RE: Sorry guys.... - Jeff Clark, Tue Aug 26 13:07:18 2008
- A few questions (no arguing!) - natsamjosh, Tue Aug 26 13:48:19 2008
- RE: A few questions (no arguing!) - Jeff Clark, Tue Aug 26 17:15:44 2008
- Small PICs - Jeff Clark, Tue Aug 26 17:50:32 2008
- RE: A few questions (no arguing!) - natsamjosh, Tue Aug 26 19:40:38 2008
- LOL - saagbay, Tue Aug 26 19:56:56 2008
- RE: LOL - natsamjosh, Tue Aug 26 20:20:00 2008
- RE: LOL - saagbay, Tue Aug 26 20:27:51 2008
- RE: LOL - natsamjosh, Tue Aug 26 20:40:18 2008
- RE: LOL - sean1976, Tue Aug 26 22:15:18 2008
- RE: A few questions (no arguing!) - Jeff Clark, Tue Aug 26 22:18:58 2008
- Ha Ha! - ReneeValois, Wed Aug 27 10:11:41 2008
- RE: Ha Ha! - natsamjosh, Wed Aug 27 10:42:10 2008
- so, you're shooting for.... - rainbowsrus, Wed Aug 27 12:44:31 2008
- RE: so, you're shooting for.... - natsamjosh, Wed Aug 27 16:33:16 2008
- If that happens... - ReneeValois, Wed Aug 27 20:59:45 2008
- RE: so, you're shooting for.... - rainbowsrus, Thu Aug 28 00:22:56 2008
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