I do think it is very possible that the weaknesses we see with super jungles/motleys/etc is caused by a shallow gene pool... which is easily countered with a little outcrossing.

I disagree with what you said regarding a mutation creating more hardy animals. I dont think thats what we see or saw with hypos and albinos. I think some animals were stronger in sunglow litters because of it being outcrossed, not because of it being a sunglow (versus an albino). I've produced a decent number of sunglows/albinos from multiple litters and certainly havent seen any evidence of that. It goes against the grain of what we see accross the board scientificly as well. From what I understand - mutations always cause a lessening information and instances that appear different are highly debatable and few/far between.

So I personally dont think we're going increase the strength of anything via adding mutations.

I do think you're onto something with the outcrossing though. Hopefully we can get these supers up to snuff very soon. Those breeders who are outcrossing into the best normal bloodlines or other well established (outcrossed) mutations have it right IMO. In fact, thats what I (and many others) are doing with the hypo mutation. Further outcrossing for even stronger... more geneticly diverse bloodlines.



I think many of the original supers were produced from very inbred parents which resulted in weak animals that did poorly. We have seen this in other morphs like albinos and snows. Once more out bred animals were used the albinos and snows produced were more viable. I expect it will be similar with supers. It is my impression from looking at pictures that more normal appearing Motley and Jungle supers are being produced. I would expect that these animals will be able to breed. It is also possible that the addition of another gene to the supers like the hypo gene may result in more hearty animals that are able to breed. I think there is no question the hypo gene has made albinos stronger and more easy to breed. It may be that the first generation of supers viable enough to breed is just now reaching breeding age.

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