The Female that produced them was a proven normal that we got from a friend who doesn't work with Spiders, and the Male that sired the clutch was a Cinnamon, but I don't think it was from a Spider breeding.

I have talked to quite a few expereinced ball breeders, and they all said it can happen, even with normals, like was mentioned previously.

I think I was just overly paranoid as it was with a Cinnamon, I have been very careful what morphs we have worked with, as I don't want to work with morphs that are prone to what I consider defects, to many they are not, but to me they are.

I am pretty bummed that the "Duckbilling" facial deformaty of the Super Cinnamon and Black Pastels are something that looks like it can't be avoided, as there now has been CinnamonxBlack Pastel supers produced that do have it, and it looks like it might be something that happens with the supers and outcrossing doesn't seem to rid it.

Which changes my plans on what I was going to do with the Cinnamons and Black Pastels I have, but we have stayed away from certain morphs, like the Spider, Carmel Albino, ect...because of the high or higher incidents of defects. And when I saw this hatchling Cinnamon doing a Spider Wobble, I freaked, thinking there might have been something up with the Cinnamons that nobody really has talked about...which would have bummed me out, but nobody seems to have seen it, and it seems like I just had a fluke wierdo Cinnamon, which is a bummer, but I am glad it isn't something that is tied to the Cinnamon gene.

Thanks for all the replies eveyone...
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