>>Just to be scientific, based on your prior comments, how often had you been herping in trees - that you would have captured them there?
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>>Don't you normally walk & herp on the ground??
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>>How many tree cavities had you searched during this process?




you just don't get it.
First you say they should not be called rat snakes because that one article did not specify rats as their diet.
Then you said that food shouldn't be a factor but where they live should be the determination.
YOU are the one who said they should be called tree snakes because they are found in trees. The simple fact is....More times then not they are found anywhere but trees.
How can you still defend your reasoning to call them tree snakes.
You used one article as your basis that they do not eat rats and this article was based on a whopping twelve specimen survey.
Now that is one "extreme" survey group.
You have been given numerous examples of rat snakes that are not found in snakes. According to your reasoning of location equal naming they should be called anything but tree snakes.
You said they should not be called rat snakes because they do not eat rats then you cave a list of animals mentioned in that one expansive twelve snake survey. By the other side of your logic should they be called birdsquirrelchipmunklizardmousefrog snakes?
Or, flipping back to the "other" logic again... they are found on the ground, in barns, attics, rocks and on roadways.
Should they be called rock snakes, road snakes, attic snakes, barn snakes or ground snakes. Should all other snakes found in similar habitats be called the same thing?
The only thing you did say that made sense is the the naming of milk snakes...that one is crazy. a non=founded belief that they were "stealing" milk from cows in the field.
Your mention of corn snakes has been touched upon several times now. You should understand now that they were not named corn snakes because they eat corn. The patterning on their bellies was comparable to indian corn and there were instances of them being found in corn cribs eating the mice feeding on the corn or other possible grains stored there.
I have seen rat snakes eat rats, never seen one eat a tree. I have found over a hundred rat snakes in my life and only two in trees. How do those numbers warrent calling a rat snake a treee snake.
Like someone mentioned in a previous responce, I have found quite a few green snakes and these were always in bushes or low hanging trees, never on the ground. Should they be called tree snakes even though green snakes is a pretty good descriptive?
I have seen more water snakes in trees then any other species in my area. I can travel down the river or creek, while fishing, and see them drop from low hanging limbs into the water. Which should they be, water snakes or tree snakes?
you also mentioned that all sea snakes are called sea snakes because they are in the sea. Well if snakes are not found in the sea,well that would generaly mean they would have to found on land. Should all non sea snakes be called land snakes, then?

by the way...my original response was deleted for some reason. Once again I know it did not violate the TOS but....we will see what happens here.

a non tree dwelling "tree snake"




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