Hey this is always going to be a topic of discussion. Robyn how long have you kept Beardies, and all the talk about the OZ temps how many times have you been out there in the outback and checked the temps. I have to agree with everyone else on the forum. 130 may not hurt the dragons if you do have a good gradiant and you are correct you can acheive that without raising the ambiant temps, but dragons dont go into that heat. They just dont. YOu always talk about 2008 husbandry but really have you been to Ausie in 2008??? The only person on here who agrees with you is YOU (caps for a point). Instead of telling everyone else they are wrong how about trying their way. I do also believe you are pushing temp guns every chance you get but nobody blames you for that cause it is business. I have kept beardies for years and I agree things change in care when you learn new stuff but TEMPS as you point out in EVERY SINGLE POST are not the ONLY aspects of care. You dont seem to have any other information except 130 degrees and a temp gun. If you want 2008 husbandry try other answers. About me. I dont know everything but as far as OZ goes I have lived there for YEARS!!! My brother does agamid reasearch there (mainly beardies) He works with the Australian zoos and research facilities, and reports here to the United States for the San Diego Zoo. We have temped the outback and you are right some areas can well exceed 130 degrees on the surface, but when those temps are that high there are ZERO beardies basking. They are under rock outcrops and shrubs in the 100-112 degree areas. Then they move to the more shaded areas around 90 degrees. You can yell TEMP TEMP TEMP all you want and I have even bought your temp gun ( A WONDERFUL TOOL I DO ADVISE ANY HERPER TO GET) but the truth is that is all you have on beardies. I have read your articles on Ackies and you are a knowledgable guy no doubt, but maybe just maybe with a hundred breeders on this site and a combined husbandry time of well over a 500 years between all of us that is a ton of knowledge and a ton of people who disagree with you, maybe you are wrong????? Like I said I dont know everything but I KNOW dragons, and I know dragons in the wild!!!

I have kept them, and have done reasearch with my brother for over 20 years in the wild. We are now collecting wild specimens to see if we here in the states have actually bred a new subspecies on a genetic level due to the massive inbreeding and all dragons here in the states are because of the ban on exports. I will keep everyone posted on that. I lived in Australia for many wonderful years and every last one was dedicated to the Dragons. 130 degrees is fine in a tank if you have other areas, but the dragons will not go in the extreme heat, and that in my opionion is a wast of tank space that could be used for more comfortable and helpful temps, Like you said it is about the dragons and not our egos!!!!! My dragons and wild dragons are more comfortable and happier in 100 degree areas if it was about the dragons to you then you would see that. Or come to Ausie with me and we can go out and do the reasearch together....

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