The recent taxonomy changes from the scientific community had me confused, and thus kindled my ideas and questions. (I do feel that there are enough differences between New World & Old World rat snakes to warrant the Pantherophis designation from Elaphe.)

I was only speculating, throwing out ideas for comments. I'm also able to change my mind, once new information is available.

Some persons replied back courteously, making several important points.

Some persons seemed quite upset that I challenged the Status Quo, and offered alternative idea. (Which is the reason for this forum.)

I deeply regret how OFFENDED & UPSET some people got! Yikes, it's good that I was not them - and any heavy objects they might have thrown!

Anyway, I'm an adult, and I will get over the challenges to my ideas & assertions. I'll continue calling them Rat Snakes, and continue cherishing my Black Rat wonder called Shawnee.

Thanks for your time & consideration. I look forward to future topics & discussions.

Ameron, 48
Portland, Vancouver

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• RE: Thanks for Patience on "Tree Snake" Idea - marksherps, Sun Nov 2 21:17:32 2008
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