I think there are some incompatible lines that are called caramel that probably should be called something else. I saw a really nice animal that I was told was captive bred in Africa and proven both recessive and incompatible with the established caramel morph but I wasn't given details as to who proved that or even a name for this line. I've also read that there is a "Crider" line in the states that is reported to be incompatible. The poster even indicated that the caramel name was originally given to the Crider line but that what we now call caramel proved and proliferated quicker after the name was given.

If these are both true it gives some hope for a caramel looking animal that might not have the kinking problem and could eventually replace caramels. The import I saw I would say was even a little nicer looking than caramel.

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