I seemed to have bothered people with my comments, and I'm in the minority in my thinking. I'll be done now , but with a couple things to clarify first .

-- Skyslinger quote >> and with animals like Patrick or these I find it VERY difficult to see any negatives.

There's absolutely nothing negative about their looks. I never meant for anyone to think that. And Erins litter last year had some that looked even more Jungly to me. They looked scrumptous

-- AbsolutelyApril's quote >> I also think the abyxharli, etc, breedings would yeild some interesting results.

They have 2 or 3 times , and they look sweet.

>> Myself (and maybe others) are interested in this breeding to see what the outcome of a junglexharli would be and how the two genes would affect each other. Could the jungles be picked out easily or not?

I've seen many Harli's and thought to myself, if someone told me this was a Jungle, I'd believe it -- that's how good they often look. I don't see how it could ever be easy picking a Jungle from this type of breeding when I couldn't pick them out of seperate breedings , lol.

-- Patoquack's quote(s) >> I guess I just don't have as many concerns or criteria about what makes a breeding "good" or "bad"..

I didn't mean to say this was a bad breeding (technically I didn't ) , but weather if its a good or bad "idea" to repeatedly breed two animals (one being a morph) that look so similar that they can't be determined which is which/or both . My whole basis for my thought is based on the future of these offspring, and their offspring -- much like the Kahl/Sharps making DH's , and the confusion that would follow.
I withdraw anything that I said that you took as me meaning "good", or "bad" breedings.

-- quote from Brendan >> To me it's about making Beautiful boas and not about making money.
For those who are more about the money, they should probably stay inside the box and bread the traits that will make the obvisous morphs.

Well I certainly am not about making money in this hobby, as I spend way more then I sell, lol. I guess that I find it important to be able to eventually identify the said morphs -- this is probably because I love abberancies above all else in Boa patterns, and I'm a huge fan of the Harlequins, and also happen to own Jungles, and Abys -- I cherish them alot. I plan on owning Cyclones as well, but I'm waiting until it is determined that they're line bred, or genetic(morph-wise). I don't know of any "box" that I'm in, or out of, lol.

-- last quote from Patoquack >> I was referring to the Paradigm when I referred to the Albino to Albino breeding.. The hypo-hog thing was to illustrate how the breeder is not responsible if someone buys a correctly labled "hypo-hog" and then re-sells it as something else.


Funny that you used those two examples, as I have produced Super Hypo/Hogs (Sunsets),and I know first hand how re-sellers change the label for a more profitable sale. I also own a Sharp, Caramel, and Parahet , lol But i didn't understand how you were refferring to the Paradigm in this scenario, as the Caramels (once thought to be a recessive Hypo), does'nt look like a Sharp Albino -- oh well.

Best of luck to you as well -- no hard feeling from my end. I'm sorry to have spoken in this thread . I think my posts were thought to have a certain "tone" in them , but they really didn't get written in that way. I'm just not good a typing elequaintly.
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