Dave, I think you've produced some really cool boas and I respect you as a boa enthusiast. no need to apologize but at the same time, I'll apologize if I seemed to overly defensive.



I probably agree with a lot of your thoughts about breeding from the point of view of trying to capture as much verifiable information as possible from breeding - but I just don't have the boas I would need to do as you are suggesting. I own quite a few possible jungles and I even have 6 holdbacks from a litter I had in 2007 that I had to label as "possible" harlequins due to having two different males involved with the breeding. I also have Abys that I hope to breed - and breed into both my harlequins and jungles. I'm going to be stuck with quite a few litters involving Abys, Harlequins, possible harlequins, possible jungles - and the few definite jungles that I own. Also - I like hypos and to be completely honest I'm suprised that breeding hypos to jungles doesn't cause a rucus sometimes - because the hypo trait really seems to diminish the Jungle appearance at times as well- and we've all seen the random crazy aberrant hypos and superhypos that could just about pass for jungles themselves...



anyway, my decisions about breeding are really based on just hooking up boas that I like and hoping to get something really cool. if my breedings don't add a whole lot to the understanding about some of these morphs and traits - I'm OK with that I guess.



one other question....

I've been looking at this male quite a bit and almost wondering if it is not a hypo?? I just can't say that I've seen a hypo with such a full pattern before.

any thoughts?









Thanks,

Patrick

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• 09 hypo harlequin poss jungles - patoquack, Tue Jan 20 13:12:56 2009
• RE: 09 hypo harlequin poss jungles - Shane Kinney, Tue Jan 20 13:31:18 2009
• RE: 09 hypo harlequin poss jungles - vcaruso15, Tue Jan 20 13:36:25 2009
• RE: 09 hypo harlequin poss jungles - LarM, Tue Jan 20 16:07:46 2009
• Patrick those are AMAZING animals - skyslinger, Tue Jan 20 17:16:58 2009
• They look Jungle -- but ...... - Morgans Boas, Tue Jan 20 20:31:25 2009
• RE: They look Jungle -- but ...... - patoquack, Wed Jan 21 00:31:27 2009
• Thanks for all the comments! np - patoquack, Wed Jan 21 00:35:15 2009
• RE: They look Jungle -- but ...... - Taylorgilbert, Wed Jan 21 10:25:58 2009
• RE: 09 hypo harlequin poss jungles - mpollard, Wed Jan 21 10:45:53 2009
• RE: They look Jungle -- but ...... - patoquack, Wed Jan 21 13:10:29 2009
• RE: They look Jungle -- but ...... - Morgans Boas, Wed Jan 21 13:15:51 2009
• RE: They look Jungle -- but ...... - AbsoluteApril, Wed Jan 21 15:30:23 2009
• very nice Patrick! - AbsoluteApril, Wed Jan 21 15:38:53 2009
• RE: They look Jungle -- but ...... - patoquack, Wed Jan 21 16:24:51 2009
• Further comments and the referred to - skyslinger, Wed Jan 21 17:25:13 2009
• I think it's - bcibydesign, Wed Jan 21 18:26:21 2009
• Sorry for my opinions - Morgans Boas, Wed Jan 21 20:34:24 2009
• I understood what you where saying.... - ExecutiveReptiles, Wed Jan 21 21:01:53 2009
• RE: Sorry for my opinions - mpollard, Wed Jan 21 21:44:14 2009
• oh...and that's a Jungle n/p - mpollard, Wed Jan 21 21:53:30 2009
• Can you - bcibydesign, Wed Jan 21 22:03:02 2009
• Thats a - bcibydesign, Wed Jan 21 22:24:53 2009
• pic # 3 - Morgans Boas, Wed Jan 21 22:55:05 2009
• See...I told you I wasn't up to date... - ExecutiveReptiles, Wed Jan 21 22:55:39 2009
• Jungles aren't... - Rainshadow, Thu Jan 22 10:00:28 2009
• nothing to apologize for - AbsoluteApril, Thu Jan 22 10:23:22 2009
• RE: Jungles aren't... - mpollard, Thu Jan 22 11:10:12 2009
• RE: Jungles aren't... - AbsoluteApril, Thu Jan 22 11:21:59 2009
• Interesting.... - ExecutiveReptiles, Thu Jan 22 11:31:31 2009
• RE: Jungles aren't... - mpollard, Thu Jan 22 11:40:23 2009
• possible solution - taylorgilbert, Thu Jan 22 12:13:45 2009
• Oh...and... - mpollard, Thu Jan 22 12:28:13 2009
• Information update ...... - vcaruso15, Thu Jan 22 12:45:25 2009
• RE: possible solution - vcaruso15, Thu Jan 22 13:09:23 2009
• RE: Sorry for my opinions - patoquack, Thu Jan 22 14:42:52 2009
• You won't get any arguement here... - Rainshadow, Thu Jan 22 14:45:00 2009
• this response was misplaced.. - patoquack, Thu Jan 22 14:45:41 2009
• Yes... - Rainshadow, Thu Jan 22 15:06:44 2009
• No need for an appology here either! - skyslinger, Thu Jan 22 15:59:51 2009
• RE: HarlixAby litter (link) - Morgans Boas, Thu Jan 22 16:09:32 2009
• RE: You won't get any arguement here... - mpollard, Thu Jan 22 16:10:42 2009
• RE: possible solution - Morgans Boas, Thu Jan 22 16:16:25 2009
• Another point I have not seen mentioned. - rainbowsrus, Thu Jan 22 16:31:17 2009
• It's part of the alure... - Rainshadow, Thu Jan 22 16:50:40 2009
• That is SOooo true... - ExecutiveReptiles, Thu Jan 22 16:55:03 2009
• RE: It's part of the alure... - mpollard, Thu Jan 22 17:15:04 2009
• RE: possible solution - mpollard, Thu Jan 22 17:20:24 2009
• RE: 09 hypo harlequin poss jungles - simonesantini, Fri Jan 23 04:44:29 2009
• RE: 09 hypo harlequin poss jungles - jscrick, Fri Jan 23 11:39:43 2009
• RE: I think it's - Warren_Booth, Sun Jan 25 11:18:03 2009