Tom,

The unknown factor can be invoked anytime with any species in any population. This sounds an awful lot like the flawed precautionary principle. However, with minimal investigation we can probably arrive at some reasonable status and develop reasonable bag limits and management guidelines for every species. Let's look at your rare spotty in FL. Collectors can't find them so how are they going to collect them much less over-collect them? I have looked for spotty's on several occasions in the area of known localities and never found them. When Antonio found a DOR on SR 44 and a live one was caught behind that big huge mall in Sanford, Mary Barnwell, Tim Walsh and I went to try and find them. We didn't have any luck. Eric Anderson said he saw some near Ocala NF. I have also looked at the locality in Lafayette County. And then there is that guy who has caught them down in the swamp. Now someone could get lucky and find a population and take all of them. This is why we need to regulate the situation. Should they be listed in Florida? Maybe. But we still would need LE to enforce the laws. We should also be tracking all harvest and liscensing everybody.

Welkerii

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• Who supports the sale of WC? - OHI, Wed Feb 11 14:59:47 2009
• RE: Who supports the sale of WC? - daneby, Wed Feb 11 23:08:04 2009
• RE: Who supports the sale of WC? - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Thu Feb 12 04:55:59 2009
• There is no - brhaco, Thu Feb 12 08:52:20 2009
• RE: There is no - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Thu Feb 12 10:08:54 2009
• Well said.. - phil bradley, Thu Feb 12 11:57:48 2009
• Just stick to the question, please - OHI, Thu Feb 12 18:15:14 2009
• RE: Just stick to the question, please - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Thu Feb 12 18:37:50 2009
• Exactly my point - brhaco, Thu Feb 12 21:13:42 2009
• RE: Exactly my point - OHI, Thu Feb 12 22:13:26 2009
• I would NEVER - brhaco, Fri Feb 13 08:36:03 2009
• RE: Just stick to the question, please - OHI, Thu Feb 12 22:08:46 2009
• RE: Just stick to the question, please - TOM_CRUTCHFIELD, Thu Feb 12 22:45:27 2009
• RE: Just stick to the question, please - OHI, Thu Feb 12 23:43:08 2009
• Unknown factor - OHI, Fri Feb 13 00:02:41 2009
• RE: Unknown factor - emysbreeder, Sat Feb 14 21:34:52 2009
• RE: Unknown factor - OHI, Sat Feb 14 22:15:18 2009
• RE: Unknown factor - wstreps, Sun Feb 15 08:19:28 2009
• RE: Unknown factor - OHI, Sun Feb 15 13:50:08 2009
• RE: Just stick to the question, please - antelope, Fri Feb 13 09:09:22 2009
• Seriously- - brhaco, Fri Feb 13 08:46:37 2009
• RE: Seriously- - OHI, Fri Feb 13 14:04:33 2009
• RE: Seriously- - BRhaco, Fri Feb 13 15:03:22 2009
• RE: Seriously- - OHI, Fri Feb 13 16:22:10 2009
• RE: Seriously- - brhaco, Fri Feb 13 17:06:42 2009
• RE: Seriously- - OHI, Fri Feb 13 19:18:19 2009
• RE: Seriously- - brhaco, Fri Feb 13 20:08:13 2009
• RE: Who supports the sale of WC? - wstreps, Fri Feb 13 10:19:38 2009
• RE: Who supports the sale of WC? - OHI, Fri Feb 13 14:17:01 2009
• My late reply... - jscrick, Tue Feb 17 14:24:45 2009
• RE: My late reply... - jscrick, Tue Feb 17 14:39:52 2009