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Posted by: Aaron at Tue Mar 17 12:10:46 2009 [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Aaron ]

I feel like you are putting words in my mouth. I have never said I was against sale of wild caught. I said I thought it was harder to manage because it is more costly to enforce and that if we don't have detailed, long term studies it is more risky for populations.

Despite b_rickards use of the word ban, what he described was not a ban. A ban is when you can do nothing, no capture, no possession, no breeding, no sales. His proposal is the most cost effective and realistic, IMHO. There was nothing he said that would prevent you from selling some adults to US turtle hobbyist and farmers. It would not prevent foriegn hobbyist from obtaining cbb breed stock and it would not prevent foriegn food markets from buying small, cbb turtles which they could then raise to processing size. It is easier to enforce because wildlife officials can just inspect boxes as they go out, rather than having to have field officers all over the place.

So I am not philosophically opposed to all sales of wild caught. I only responded because I thought b_rickard's idea was pretty good and it was unwarranted to flat out say it's people like him that cause bans. I do not know him either.

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CA AB 1122 and TN SB 1322 - USARK, Thu Mar 12 19:57:05 2009

Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - OHI, Fri Mar 13 04:12:20 2009

Turtle Ban - b_rickard, Fri Mar 13 07:51:36 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - jscrick, Fri Mar 13 09:02:51 2009

"which" not "witch". n/p - jscrick, Fri Mar 13 13:29:45 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - neutrino, Sat Mar 14 18:28:53 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - OHI, Fri Mar 13 15:32:53 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - wstreps, Fri Mar 13 21:40:51 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - OHI, Sat Mar 14 02:28:12 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - wstreps, Sat Mar 14 17:46:45 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - OHI, Sun Mar 15 04:59:14 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - wstreps, Sun Mar 15 10:52:12 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - OHI, Sun Mar 15 15:39:23 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - b_rickard, Sun Mar 15 22:23:49 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - OHI, Mon Mar 16 23:41:02 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - b_rickard, Tue Mar 17 21:32:45 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - OHI, Tue Mar 17 22:55:51 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - b_rickard, Wed Mar 18 17:31:53 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - b_rickard, Wed Mar 18 17:48:08 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - b_rickard, Tue Mar 17 21:36:58 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - OHI, Tue Mar 17 22:47:01 2009

RE: Turtle Ban - neutrino, Wed Mar 18 20:41:11 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - Aaron, Mon Mar 16 16:15:53 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - OHI, Tue Mar 17 00:41:20 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - Aaron, Tue Mar 17 01:46:12 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - OHI, Tue Mar 17 05:13:21 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full s - brhaco, Tue Mar 17 08:19:42 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full s - OHI, Tue Mar 17 13:57:05 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full s - brhaco, Tue Mar 17 16:17:37 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full s - OHI, Tue Mar 17 21:28:51 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full s - b_rickard, Tue Mar 17 21:38:25 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full s - OHI, Tue Mar 17 22:30:53 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - Aaron, Tue Mar 17 12:10:46 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - OHI, Tue Mar 17 14:16:24 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - b_rickard, Tue Mar 17 20:12:59 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - b_rickard, Tue Mar 17 20:14:07 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - b_rickard, Tue Mar 17 20:15:09 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - b_rickard, Tue Mar 17 20:16:03 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - b_rickard, Tue Mar 17 20:17:26 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - spenden, Sun Mar 22 10:47:44 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - b_rickard, Tue Mar 17 20:19:40 2009

Not one US species - OHI, Tue Mar 17 22:34:39 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - neutrino, Thu Mar 19 15:06:51 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - OHI, Tue Mar 17 22:18:51 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - b_rickard, Wed Mar 18 17:23:22 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - b_rickard, Wed Mar 18 17:45:36 2009

RE: Turtle banning agenda also in full swing - ravenspirit, Fri Mar 20 01:39:12 2009

RE: CA AB 1122 and TN SB 1322 - brhaco, Tue Mar 17 08:39:24 2009

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