Barry,

Here is what you wrote:

"You my friend are an idiot because over collecting for food and the pet trade do have a negative effect on turtle populations."

Here is what I wrote:

"I understand that over-harvest needs to be stopped."

"Everything can be harvested. It is how much you take that is the issue not the taking itself."

"I would also agree that the food turtle harvesters are causing the trouble for the pet trade and recreational harvesters. You can’t punish all for the sins of a few. I know they see dollar signs and don’t care about the resource. This can be fixed with bag limits. Bans are wrong, period. You will never convince me otherwise. I know that every species over-produces its kind to account for removals in the population. If you have data that they don’t let me know."

So Barry, if you would have READ my post and COMPREHENDED ENGLISH you would have seen that I have NEVER said that I support over-collection quite the contrary. I rest my case.

Welkerii
El Paso, TX

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