Ok Jeff
Since you can determine what's "BS", what are you
going to do about all the people who are selling Burmese Star Tortoises on kingsnake.com?

As far a I know there was only one shipment of 5 - 6 animals that came into this country "legally" and that was out of China. I have copies of the import documents of that shipmemt. ALL the Burmese Star Tortoises in this country are of illegal origins. Most of these animals came into this country in the last 8 years. All of those animals came out of the wild...not only did they come out of the wild, they came out of a SANCTUARY. Isn't it strange that a group of academics and their associates go over to Burma/Myanmar and all of sudden
Burmese Stars are all over the USA and being sold on your site.
Some of you will say that those animals were confiscations and came into this country "legally" through zoos because the zoos can then do what they want with them. They are still illegal. The Feds are good as smelling BS but if they know that there has never been legal documentation out of Myanmar for the export of
Burmese Stars why wouldn't they go after the people who brought them in or who have them? I saw the BS document that was being circulated from U.S. Fish and Wildlife stating that the offspring of Burmese Stars can be legally sold if the parents are of legal origin.

All you people that want to fall back on that "my herps are captive bred" forget where they originally came from.....like the wild.

Hey Jeff, kingsnake.com is never going out of business. If AIG can steal billions and get rewarded with billions more what are they going to do to you.....nationalize kingsnake.com! Put in government employees????

Take a stand with these guys because if you don't you may to run out of legal animals on ks.com and then maybe you will go out of business.

Jeff, they're arresting a guy for one Northern Red Salamander. If they want Northern Red Salamanders I can show them were they can get 10 to 100 per night.....over and over again. Red back salamanders?.......how many do you want.

You're forgetting that this isn't a permit violation. There are no permits. If these people gave the collectors permits for limited amounts and then they violated that, then I'd say ok arrest them. This is just an agenda....you have no say. This is just protectionism for the sake of protectionism.

I just don't want to see collecting from the wild end. All of a sudden everything has to be protected? Give them permits!

Every animal (from the wild) that gets into the hands of the breeders is bred to the point that there is a glut. If they're so worried about loosing them out of the wild........put some back!

Don't get me wrong Jeff, you've done a heck of a job putting this site together. You made a platform for people in the herp community to interact with each other, to get advice on care for animals, to see photos of animals, to sell animals (both WC and CB), to join groups, your site is responsible for changes to the laws for the good of the collectors, and most of all TO GET LEGAL ADVICE OR ACCESS TO LEGAL ADVICE. I commend you and your people for this.

Thanks Jeff

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