that last one on the first post is the Sunglow Motley...as compared to the other sunglows in the litter, i've noticed that the motley has more of a burnt oragne glow to it, kind of like comparing a sharp albino to a kahl. Kind of interesting to know that the motley gene influences the degree of contrast in sunglows...i've seen a few sunglow motleys and they all have stark contrast.

I used a sunglow i pruchased from BArry Berg back in 05..she was dripping in reds and one of the best sunglows i'd ever seen.

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