Randy and Michelle,

You are so very correct. The sad part is that many hobbyists side with academia and agency biologists that push skewed, biased and agenda based papers and opinions. It is generally estimated that anywhere from 30% to 75% of academia supports positions against this industry. Until those degreed professionals come out and speak up we don't know who is who. Many academics are really preservationists and not conservationists. They say they are for conservation but what they are really about is preservation. Many support the banning agenda. They testify at regulatory agency hearings as "experts" and scare the crap out of the regulatory biologists (who come from academia) and then those biologists pass banning regs and other arbitrary knee jerk reaction regs (example: turtles in Texas).

This is all part of the battle we are facing. This is why we ALL must come together under USARK and fight or kiss this industry good bye.

Welkerii
El Paso, TX

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• We need to draft some bills - OHI, Wed Apr 22 16:15:28 2009
• some bills? - obeligz, Wed Apr 22 17:23:57 2009
• RE: some bills? - runswithturtles, Wed Apr 22 22:34:24 2009
• Specifics??? - natsamjosh, Thu Apr 23 07:45:14 2009
• RE: Specifics??? - OHI, Thu Apr 23 12:00:46 2009
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• I Agree 100% - ArtInScales, Fri Apr 24 00:53:26 2009
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• The problem with FEDERAL legislation... - kathylove, Thu Apr 23 14:02:57 2009
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• rathunt then? - obeligz, Sat Apr 25 13:37:23 2009
• RE: The problem with FEDERAL legislation... - OHI, Thu Apr 23 18:24:30 2009
• academics and government biologist's... - jscrick, Fri Apr 24 10:36:53 2009
• ethical scientists - obeligz, Sat Apr 25 14:18:14 2009
• RE: The problem with FEDERAL legislation... - wstreps, Thu Apr 23 19:14:11 2009
• Act of God? - obeligz, Sat Apr 25 15:44:18 2009
• RE: Act of God? - wstreps, Sat Apr 25 19:18:16 2009
• a devil´s prank then? - obeligz, Sun Apr 26 07:32:06 2009
• RE: a devil´s prank then? - wstreps, Sun Apr 26 17:53:17 2009
• Rodda is a nutcase, BUT - Jaykis, Mon Apr 27 10:57:58 2009
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• What about proactive bills such as... - laurarfl, Fri Apr 24 08:30:09 2009