return to main index

  market - home
follow us on facebook follow us on twitter link to us on LinkedIn
Click for ZooMed  
Locate a business by name: click to list your business
search the classifieds. buy an account
events by zip code list an event
Search the forums             Search in:
News & Events: UGA Study shows pathogens threaten snakes survival in Southern US . . . . . . . . . .  First time Sea Turtle nesting in Florida . . . . . . . . . .  Heavy Metal Scorpion . . . . . . . . . .  How a python change the course of Attenbourgh's life . . . . . . . . . .  Make good choices . . . . . . . . . .  Burmese found on roadside in Wisconsin raises issues . . . . . . . . . .  Happy Earth Day . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake Merch Store . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake returns to Tinley . . . . . . . . . .  kingsnake.com joins Monitor Brains! . . . . . . . . . .  Sneak Peek . . . . . . . . . .  Amphibian gut bacteria showing promise in cancer research . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Meet The Baroness - The world's longest snake . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  Updates? . . . . . . . . . .  Herp Photo of the Day . . . . . . . . . .  The mechanics behind the viper strike . . . . . . . . . .  Snakes on a Train? . . . . . . . . . .  Tracking the animals in the Florida Everglades - Meet the Croc Docs . . . . . . . . . .  Reintroduction attempts give San Francisco Garter a second chance . . . . . . . . . .  Promoting Reptiles is Our Jam Man . . . . . . . . . .  Origins of Chytrid discovered . . . . . . . . . .  Wisdom Wednesday - The Forums - The water is warm... Come on in! . . . . . . . . . .  Kingsnake.com Past, Present and Future . . . . . . . . . .  IHS Celebrates 50 years . . . . . . . . . .  End of January 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Fun Fact Friday - Green Tree Monitor . . . . . . . . . .  The Evolution of the Osteoderm discovered . . . . . . . . . .  CRE - Jun. 20-21, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - June 20, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Chicago Herpetological Society Meeting - June 21, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Bay Area Herpetological Society Meeting - June 26, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Tinley NARBC June - Jun 27-28 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  DFW Herp Society Meeting - June 27, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Greater Cincinnati Herp Society Meeting - July 01, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Reptile Super Show & LA Pet Fair - July 11-12 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  PACNWRS - Jul. 11-12, 2026 . . . . . . . . . .  Colorado Herp Society Meeting - July 18, 2026 . . . . . . . . . . 

Back stabbing festival in herp industry

[ Login ] [ User Prefs ] [ Search Forums ] [ Back to Main Page ] [ Back to Herp Law Center & Forum ]

Posted by: OHI at Tue Apr 28 13:45:39 2009   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by OHI ]  
   

All,



I just scanned it. Its main goal is to squeeze out the little guy who can't afford to conform to these standards. As a little guy that's how I read it. There are some good things in the document that would help the industry, however. I know of a certain former burmese python breeder that now does chondros, boas and colubrids in the Gainesville, Florida area that was talking a few years ago about doing something like this. His arguement was that the "backyard breeder" didn't have the over head he did and thus could under cut him on price. I find the opposite to be true. The "warehouse snake breeders" usually under cut the "backyard breeder." There are many more "backyard breeders" then big commercial guys. Another interesting fact is that many of the big guys in the industry use to be small guys. Now they have theirs and they want to close the door on you getting yours.



This sounds really familiar. Some of you may remember my arguements with a certain group of west Texas herpers. They claim to not be commercial when it comes to collecting from the wild. They want to throw the commercial guys under the bus so they can keep theirs. They claim to be recreational hobbyists. As with the fishing industry we know that the recreational folks greatly out number the commercial folks. Now, if the big breeders get their way, the small recreational hobbyists will now have to admit to being commercial and conform to these new commercial standards to be in the game.



This industry has always been interesting and cut throat. It will be interesting to see how this works out. I will support an individual's rights to be in the game at any level. However, it looks like we are moving towards the Wal-Mart model if we don't get castrated by the academics and AR groups first. Oh the joys of herpetoculture.



Welkerii

El Paso, TX


   

[ Show Entire Thread ]


>> Next Message:  RE: Back stabbing festival in herp industry - Joe_Hiduke, Tue Apr 28 18:09:08 2009

<< Previous Message:  RE: NEW HR669 - NIRIP? - READ THIS - Joe_Hiduke, Tue Apr 28 11:53:59 2009

Click to visit Classifieds Click to visit Sierra Fish and Pets Click to visit Redding Reptiles
KINGSNAKE.COM

Enjoy all our content free of charge with a user account that gives you full access to every feature. For added visibility, paid options are available - post in our Classifieds, showcase your business with Banner Ads or a Directory listing, promote reptile events, and more.

Quick Links
Community
Legal & Safety
Support

Register for free ✓ Sign up!

Kingsnake.com ® is a registered trademark © 1997-