Well pitoon.. I know strickly and get his pricelist regularly and know people who work in his facility.. I am in Dade county would love to meet up with ya sometime.. As far as lessers and butters go... I believe the BEL they both produce are not identical in quality just like a mojaves BEL.. You see more lessers then butters around because butters are a newer morph.. If they were the same they would be called the same.. Similar yes, identical NO!

As far as the bloody rats go.. They come from a breeding facility they breed them there only.. Then they get shipped out around the US.. They useally toss out the rats I get due to the fact they are the surplus.. I know there is no testing at this facility and the rats arent tampered with there. They actually breed about 30 different species of rats and mice... I order my rats from Loxahatchee Herps usually and I dont have this bleeding problem thats why I was questioning it.. The facility doesnt like me asking to many questions and I dont want to burn my connection due to the fact im buying small and medium rats by the hundreds for average or less then $.25 each.. They have had peta show up to thier facility so they are very uptight and closed to the public all together.. I think the diet they feed the rodents are somewhat more organic.. I believe someone posted here a few months ago talking about medical rats are like "to foo" rats..

The original reason I posted here was for advice only.. No smart comments and not to start a huge thread. But seems like every time I post something up here it gets blown up... I figured more people had this problem with the rats and was just wanting to see if there was a known solution.. But im done posting here I will just stand back and read from now on...

JBugg

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• Pairings? Bloody Rats? Advice Please... - jbuggfl, Mon May 11 21:20:11 2009
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