I agree with what you said and think your theory of their origin is very probable. The fact that the amel gene is in the mix makes me think these may very well have been started by an escaped / released captive.
Someone who posts here said he saw a very applegate looking amel SD that was said to have been found in that area. This snake was a hatchling and was found nearly 20 years ago.

I too have seen nothing but very normal looking SD gophers in that area - and in the miles of habitat surrounding it.


All of my animals came from the person that collected the gravid female that produced an amel in the clutch - starting a captive line of these. This person named them Yorba Linda gophers - knowing they're not pure SD. I call them YL's cause I'm in no position to change it.

As I said in my first post, I do believe there were Sonorans collected in that area - whether released CB or not I dont know, but I have a great story about that and saw a photo of one collected there.

Now let's talk about those 46 helleri!!!!!! I almost fell out of my chair when I read that. I know they're thick there but that is just mind blowing!



Thanks for the input.

byron.d

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