hmm touchy subject...i have mixed emotions on wc torts. one real good thing that comes from wc torts. is breeding coloneys that would otherwise take an unbelieveable amount of time to establish. i recently purchased a ltc wc coloney of red foots that i hope will produce many cb red foots for some local pet shops. without wc torts. this would not be as available for me and others to do. is it compleately fair to pull one out of the wild for somebody to forget about in a month or two? probibly not. as far as the "rehomeing" or "adoption" fees go, that is out of control. they just need to say thoes animals are for sale. years ago when i was first geting into sulcatas i tryed to go to a shelter and adopt one but the process ended up being so long and drawn out i eventualy said screw it and just bought some. so i agree that the pet trade is not perfect and there are several aspects of it that are grey but dont let it get in the way of my fun. i go to work every day and cannot wait for the buzzer to go off and i battle traffic to come home and mix up food, think of ways to improve habitats,& record weights. there is nothing like the feeling you get when you go into the pen for a little relaxation and you see one droping an egg in a hole!

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