I would definitely agree with you after you made this last statement about the Australian breeder that uses MI exclusively with BHPs. Like to have heard about that data earlier in the discussion. However, it would be nice to rule out physiological thermoregulation without muscular contraction, as some python species are capabile of. Easy enough to rule that one out. Are these guys that are using MI with Aspidites taking intracoil temps during the incubation period, especially at night? A small steady drop in intracoil temps over night would prove it decisively, whether "shivering" was observed or not.

Kelly

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