>>I have two years of thayeri production under my belt and hopefully many more to go. So far I'm a little confused by my results.

>>

>>Example:

>>2008

>>MSP x MSP - I got all MSP

>>MSP x MSP - I got all MSP

>>Leonis x Leonis - I got both Leonis and MSP

>>

>>2009

>>Leonis x Leonis - I got leonis, MSP and intermediate

>>Leonis x MSP - I got both leonis and MSP

>>

>>What was it about the two MSP x MSP that produced all MSP where as leonis x leonis produced both or three phases in a single clutch? Is there a point where they start to breed true to phase with any amount of predictability?

>>

>>I hope you can make some sense out of my rambling.



I made clear sense out of your rambling since I too have pondered this myself....



You will have to look at the parental background of each snake you are breeding Danny. Most offspring will show the phase their grandparents were. If both grandparents were MSPs of each snake you are breeding you will most likely produce MSPs predominantly, especially if the snakes you are breeding are MSPs themselves. Kinda recessive but still unpredictable. There is some polymorphism and codominance happening as well......LOL



I liked breeding one phase to the other for such unpredictable offspring....



And...as you have witnessed Leonis phase offspring (including intermediates) are VERY variable in their selves. MSPs have their subtle differences, but generally "look" all the same.

Some people will argue that point though....LOL

I've had the hardest time selling a clutch of all MSP offspring.

The leonis are more desireable overall, but there are some out there that prefer a nice MSP.....I think it's the fact that there are lots of tricolors out there already.....



And yes...there is a point when one phase will breed true with predictability.....they may throw out one of the other phase on occasion unpredictably.



This is not the exact answer....it is merely what I have witnessed when breeding thayeri.



I hoped this helped and I wish others will respond and share their experience on the subject.



Regards,
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John Lassiter



"Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part....."

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