The only thing I was potentially involved in was the "Lajitas" that ended up with Adam. After some digging I believe that what Adam ended up with was some 277's that were produced by Dave Long which I got from Dave and sold. I do not know how they became "Lajitas" because I knew they were 277's when I got them from Dave. I knew this because the female that produced them was a light alterna collected by me and Dave and we were splitting clutches. The male that was used was a dark alterna he collected himself which he backed up with a cb light Sweetman alterna and maybe some other 277 males as well. The point being I knew they were 277's at the time and they cerainly do look like 277's today, IMHO.



I do know that, of the Lajitas I owned the wc male died, 1 cb Keasler male was sold to an unknown person and the 2 Limburg's were loaned to Shannon on breeding loan, later to be sold to Charles Shanklin. As of last year they were still residing in the collection of Charles Shanklin.



All the Keasler and Limburg Lajitas' I had looked like Lajitas' should look. I do not have a pic of the Keasler male but I can tell you it was a medium alterna phase with some red in it and lots of alternates. I do have pics of 2 of the Limburg's I had and they look completely different than Adam's snakes. There may have been a third Limburg too but I could not locate it. I just cannot see myself mixing these up as they look so different from 277's. Pics are below.



I also know I never bred any of these snakes because the Keasler male had an eye infection and the Limburg's were less than 18" long when I got rid of them, in fact they barely reached breeding size for Charles last year.



That said I currently have nothing that I would consider questionable. All my Gaps were produced by Dan Johnson, I bought them directly from Dan and I have the original ID#'s on file and they all trace to very reputable collecters. I have one line of Langtries and they all descend from adults I collected myself. I have 3 lines of 277's, one North Loma line soley from adults I collected myself, 1 South Loma line also soley from adults I collected myself and one South Loma line that descends from animals Adam Sweetman and Dan Johnson collected themselves, which has been outcrossed to South Loma wc's that I collected myself. I do have a couple other localities but I have never bred them because they are either too young or not paired up. Other than that I really can't speak for some of the stuff I had in the past unless someone can show the actual animal because I don't keep records on who buys what. I think it's kind of up to the buyer to ask these questions at the time they buy them so if they have retained the ID#'s on the adults that produced them I can probably answer any questions they may have. I was not always concerned with locality or with tracing back to the actual collecter's. In those cases I either dispersed them as a line from whoever they were from, or with no info at all because the reciever didn't care to ask what they were.



Limburg Lajitas'

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