To be honest, it looks pretty genuine to me if you figure it's a simple bizarre pattern abberancy. The head shape, iris color, body color, double nape stripes, and ventrolateral spotting look pretty reasonable. But anything's possible nowadays..LOL!



I like the way you put "not true", in your arcifera caption..LOL!. That proves to me that you DO know more than some folks!..hahaha!(ruthveni)...good touch!



REALLY nice stuarti example too!





best regards, ~Doug



Thanks Doug. I think the Triangulum ID'ing is going to be an ongoing task, I can get Ventral counts, scales of the head done etc. However, It will be a bloody pain. Being in Europe, I don't see many of them, So I jumped at them of course. The female is alot more less abberant patterned. I have no idea of their background, But i got the pair from the same place as my female Stuarts, and thats genuine to say the least!





My first take on that abbarrant Eastern was that it looked more like a Situla(Leopard rat from Croatia area). Being in Europe it wouldnt surprise me. Let me assure you of something, easterns are not commonly kept and I have heard of only 2 subspecific cross breedings and those were years ago. Just check the anal plate for ID. If you got them both from the same guy there is a good chance you got lucky. Good on you!



Hi Jeff, Any input shines some light, so I'm very greatful. I've never seen Situla before, So I have no idea. I will have a gander once replying to all the comments. Interms of acquiring them, I bought them from the same breeder, who I also got the female Stuarti from. I'll get a ID of the Anal Plate, What am I looking for? One Scale?



Jeff,...there certainly are some aberrant lines of situla, and they can be pretty weirdly patterned sometimes, I agree, but I don't even see a hint of situla in that one's head shape or head pattern. The body, okay, maybe there, but all the Croatian ssp. I've ever seen still have that distinct Leopard rat head.



Conflicting Information, If only it was so easy to say they were Triangulum or not. I Appreciate all your input guys, Really I do.



Scott,



Very nice collection you've got there! Those are great looking triangulum. Your photos are nice as well. That campbelli looked especially nice to me.



Do you have any info on that L. t. triangulum? The first one pictured looks very unusual to me, not like any I have seen before.



Dave



Thanks Dave. The Campbelli is strangely clean, The red is so rich. Interms of the Triangulum, Again, I know, know more then you guys. I can try and get the breeder, however it was through a shop, So I doubt they'd like to give out breeders information, As I work in a Reptile store myself. We'll see.



P.s. Could do with a pair of Cosalas





Welcome to the forums!

Check out the snappy eastern guys!

Looks like Mr Campbelli has never refused a meal....all great looking snakers and I'm happy to see a correctly identified stuarti.

Really different little eastern milk you've got...

Jeff



Thanks Jeff. Yeah, *Mrs* Campeblli is a cracker. I have a nice Apricot/Poss Oreo lined up for her. The Stuarti are possibly my favourite subspecies to keep.



Nice collection Scott...and pictures came out very well. I'm pretty much a honduran guy but I have to say that the coloring and cleanliness of your Cambelli came out really striking to say the least.



Great stuff!



Ray



Thanks Ray. I'm really happy with the pictures too, It's not an expensive camera nor any lens's etc. Just a Simple Fujifilm FinePix S5700.



Thanks Everybody for your input and kind words. I'm sure they'll be more snakes to come, so a hell of a lot more photos to process.



Kind Regards,

Scott

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