I am not an eastern milk expert by any stretch, but I do recall seeing lots of them (L.t.triangulum)in the early spring in Jo Daviess County, far NW Illinois. One of the few parts of Ill. that has any topography. They would hibernate in the bluffs and rock outcrops, but come down to the low country in very early spring. I would find them crossing gravel roads when there were still patches of snow on the ground. Strong, wiry snakes that would chew the heck out of you.

They were really diverse in coloration; most had brownish blotches, a few were more reddish. Some looked, to me, pretty much like the one which was pictured. If you want to call it green, that's fine. I agree that it looks olive or olive brown.

What is with this big deal with color morphs anyway? Do the odd ones sell for more $$? Sounds like a marketing ploy. I went to a herp show recently (my first one) and almost everything was labeled as one kind of color morph or another. Seems like no one appreciates the typical form. One table had 25 different cornsnake morphs, but none looked as nice as a typical cornsnake. As for me, give me the snakes which look like the ones pictured in the field guides. For example, can any milksnake morph under the sun looks as nice as a red milksnake (L.t.syspila)?

Damn, did I digress.

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