The problem is you guys are inexperienced and really don't know or understand what is best for the animals. Robyn, I asked you once to post a picture of one of your "so called" advanced setups. And as I remember you called me a "troll" because you were too embarassed to post one or possibly they don't exist at all. Why don't you put your momey where your mouth is. My pictures show my testing and experience. It only takes me seconds to raise the basking temps. in my enclosures, I just change the termostat settings. What you guys can't comprehend is that the ambient temp. above a 130 dregree basking spot is significantly higher than the ambient temp. above a 105 degree temp. and that they call it "relative" humidity because as temps. increase humidity decreases. Outside there is much more air circulation so higher basking spots are not as much of an issue. But again you guys don't have outdoor enclosures like I do, so you have no idea how they actually act when high basking temps. are present in nature. The answer to the question of how many dragons live past 8 is pretty much all of them under my conditions. Your conditions are also used to make beef jerky so I can understand your noted shorter life spans.

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