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If anyone has new WC lines please

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Posted by: Jeff Schofield at Fri Oct 9 10:39:10 2009   [ Email Message ] [ Show All Posts by Jeff Schofield ]  
   

Email me privately.Thanks.



Chris, back on your meds quickly! Maybe you should reread the post. I know what I know, and if I dont know something I am the first to admit it. I admitted to broad generalizations, and this wont account for either genetic drift, captive breeding practices or personal preference obviously. But it is a valid question, and I thought if I approached it from a educated but "out of the loop" perspective we could talk about it. Honest representation is everything! You cant compare intergradation of getula morphs to IDing locality milks, there is no bridge there.

Answers that would be possible include---A,B, and C are relatively new lines of wc St Marys(genetic drift or chance?); maybe there is a relationship between head pattern and rodent feeding(captive breeding practices); or how about "I prefer coastals with head patterns"(personal preference). So instead of complaining that I am firing a gun maybe pay attention to see what I am aiming at. It is a subject worth talking about. I know I would be alot more likely to get back into coastals IF I knew who had "the good stuff", if there are new players in the game. Unless people step forward and admit to working with "new"(WC) lines I will assume they are either older lines(and its my opinion beyond F2 locality loses its value), HYPO/het lines or the mixed locality(and these could be due to HYPO lines-I dont judge). I think people may be more paranoid about the stigma of either using WC stock or collecting and I hope they arent.

So, if you know of anyone that has caught a NC coastal by all means let me know. They are TOUGH to find, Brad and I set up a spot down there years ago and I havent been back to check it...hope someone is! Ted is very commercial now but I know he has alot of "good stuff". I bet he hasnt forgotten how to find em! Chris you have a great collection as well, and I havent seen anything posted on those hypo scarlets in quite a while...how are they doing?? Is that hypo red getting bigger? I digress.

So where are the patternless head Coastals? If anyone has any please post! Thanks.


   

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