Doug,

I didn't make myself clear, sorry bout that. I assumed the photo you posted is a celaenops but an interesting looking celaenops because of the RBR count, (on the low side for celaenops) and the head and snout. (my own observation)

The RBR count for celaenops can be all over the map, low 17, to high 22. Of course the counts can be lower or higher at times.

The head shape and lack of white snout is my own observation of how most celaenop heads look. The size of the RBR is another thing I look for in celaenops.



Here is one of my best celaenops breeders w/ more white/amber on his nose then what I would expect in a classic celaenops, but w/ a RBR count that fits into the classic number for celaenops, not to metion the wide red bands.







I believe this would be a classic looking celaenops, produced by Cole, bred to the male above. The white lip, on a wedge shaped head with a RBR count of 18.





Couple more classic celaenops.





I would call this an intergrade celaenopsXgentilis. High band count w/ the lack of a wedge shaped head, and the locality it's from is near gentilis land, so I'm told. Not my snake.





This animal has a celaenpos look to it, I think, with it's wedged shaped head and white lip which does push into it's head cap a little, but the band count is way to high, and it's locality is out of celaenops range. Hence it is a taylori. Interesting how much they can look a like.





Here is what a mean celaenops will do.





This is one of the best celaenops I have ever seen.

I believe this was found and photo taken by Troy Hibbits, and posted by Nathan Wells in his incredible post last year. Yes, I stole the photo and saved it to look at when my wife is out of town. -Dell

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